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● RDT COMM ·Original-Passion1928 ·July 19, 2026 ·04:36Z

Short field landing help.

I fly a Cessna 152, and I have a checkride coming up, so I've been spending a lot of time studying both the POH and the ACS. The ACS states that you should maintain the manufacturer's recommended approach speed (54 KIAS for the C152), or, if no speed is
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A student pilot's forum post about short-field landing technique in a Cessna 152 highlights a persistent gap between what checkride standards demand and what many flight instructors actually teach in the pattern. The FAA's Airman Certification Standards call for maintaining the manufacturer's recommended approach speed on short-field landings — 54 KIAS for the C152, or 1.3 Vso if no POH figure exists. The student's instructor, however, has been teaching a 65 KIAS final approach speed with 30° flaps, defending the discrepancy by claiming the POH numbers are outdated and unreliable for a 50-year-old airframe. This explanation does not hold up to scrutiny: Vso (stall speed in landing configuration) is a certificated performance number tied to the aircraft's type certificate and weight, not something that erodes with age absent significant airframe modification, rigging changes, or improper weight and balance. An 11-knot pad over 1.3 Vso is difficult to justify as anything other than a personal comfort margin, and it directly undermines the entire point of short-field procedure, which is to demonstrate precise, minimum-margin control of the airplane over a real or simulated obstacle.

For working pilots and CFIs, this thread is a useful reminder of how instructional habits calcify into "that's just how we do it" doctrine, often disconnected from the actual regulatory and performance basis for a maneuver. Short-field landing technique exists because real-world operations — backcountry strips, contaminated runways, obstacle-laden fields, or simply runways shorter than a pilot is accustomed to — demand the ability to fly a stabilized approach at the slowest safe speed and land with minimal float and rollout. Padding approach speed by 10-plus knots roughly doubles touchdown energy and significantly extends the landing distance the maneuver is supposed to minimize, defeating the exercise's purpose even if the "simulating maximum braking" callout is dutifully made. Examiners on a Private or Commercial checkride will hold applicants to the ACS tolerance (generally +10/-5 knots of the specified target, though the DPE will expect the correct target speed itself), so an applicant trained to fly final at 65 KIAS when 54 is published risks a maneuver failure not because they can't fly the airplane, but because they were taught the wrong number from day one.

More broadly, this exchange reflects a recurring theme in flight training circles: inconsistent CFI quality and the transmission of folklore rather than POH-and-ACS-grounded technique, particularly at flight schools with high instructor turnover where techniques get passed down informally from one time-building CFI to the next rather than re-derived from source documents. It also touches on a legitimate but separate technical nuance the student half-remembers — that the target approach speed applies once the runway is "made" and obstacles are cleared, with a slightly higher speed acceptable earlier in the approach for margin against wind gusts or as a stabilized-approach buffer that is bled off in the flare. That is a defensible technique, well-documented in advanced training materials and used by many CFIs, but it is different from simply flying the entire final approach 10+ knots fast and calling it short-field procedure. Pilots at every level — from a C152 student to a jet captain — benefit from periodically cross-checking taught technique against the actual AFM/POH and applicable ACS or PTS, rather than accepting an instructor's rationalization at face value, especially when that rationalization involves dismissing certificated performance data as unreliable without any factual basis.

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